Euh.. ben l equipe creative voulait continuer et a ouvert des portes expres mais les ventes ont fait que marvel a dit qu il y en aurait pas une troisieme. Non c etait pas lancé et arrété mais je pense que ca fait partie de pitchs qui existent.Adinaieros a écrit : ↑28 nov. 2023, 10:57Fred le Mallrat a écrit : ↑28 nov. 2023, 10:08https://tombrevoort.substack.com/p/80-h ... um=reader2Is it true that there won't be a third Ewing/Rodriguez Defenders series? From the text itself and interviews at the time it seemed like they were setting up another book but Al later mentioned in his newsletter that they "guessed wrong" about Marvel wanting a third series. That along with how long it's been since Defenders Beyond seems pretty conclusive but I can't help but hold out hope that there might be more one day (fwiw I think that book is Al's best Marvel work outside of Hulk and Javier might be the best artist working in superhero comics today). Is this an issue editors run into often - creators risking what they put into a story assuming they'll get more runway, and how often does this actually work for them?
Glad you liked those DEFENDERS projects, Anthony, and yes, there are currently no plans to do a third one. If I had to guess, I’d say that the biggest culprit was probably the fact that, between the time when the first and second series came out, the status quos of a couple of the core Defenders characters got complicated and prevented them from being in the second series. It consequently sold a lot more poorly than the first one did, and that was the end of that. Nothing really to be done about it, I’m afraid, that’s what happens in a shared universe from time to time. But I’d also expect Al to continue to pick up on the seeds he laid down there in his other future assignments as the opportunity presents itself. But it’s always dangerous to assume that you’re going to be able to get a follow-up to any limited series, so you need to plan your stories accordingly.
Oui donc il y avait la possibilité de faire mais rien de jamais ultra ferme.
Voilà ce qu en dit Ewing
https://al-ewing-writes-comics.ghost.io/280223/This was a second 100-page magnum opus I did with one of my very favorite co-storytellers, Javier Rodriguez, and this was absolutely as much his baby as mine. The first series was very complete in and of itself, while this one sets up a few bits and pieces that will be touched on elsewhere - a result of us guessing wrong in both cases about whether Marvel would want any more. So it goes. But if Defenders Beyond is about anything, it's about the joy of the journey - the cosmic truth the Defenders travel to find is necessarily unreadable by mortal eyes, but in travelling to get there, the team uncovers truths about their universe, universes beyond, the larger nature of God, and even themselves. I'm not saying you will too if you pick this up - but hey! I'm not saying that won't happen either.
One thing I will say - if somebody on YouTube tells you they know what this is about and they're going to "explain" it to you, run away. For one thing, you should form your own opinion of the work, and for another, everything these video people say is wrong. I mean, everyone's entitled to their own opinion of the work, and all's fair in love and content... but yeesh! Coming away from issue #4 of DB thinking I'm arguing for rebooting Marvel is some next-level misinterpretation. Read it again, pally!
Anyway. Speaking of continuity, I don't have time for another Fab Five this week, because I'd need to find five songs, list them, write about them, etc, it's just not happening tonight. Instead, let me start a little something I call...
Alors on est pas sur la sérei Satana qui a été annulée du temps de Ellis/Olivetti alors que 2 numeros étaient fait.. plus dans des pitchs proposés non validés.. sauf que la 2eme mini validées ouvrent la porte sur une possible 3eme qui se fait pas à cause des ventes et donc on est un peu dans l entre deux.. ou un peu comme Thunderbolts de Kelly et Lanzing qui était greenlighté pour une mini et plus si affinité et qui sans etre sortie n a déjà plus d affinité..
Je serais étonné qu on laisse paraitre des "seeds" sans se dire que si ca fonctionne il n y aura pas une troisieme mini... je trouve que dans ce que disent les deux on lit que c etait la possibilité envisagé (et donc que le denouement des seeds au moment T a été discuté)
Pour moi ca fait bien parti de projets avortés et qui était possibles (plus que les pitchs pour West Coast Xmen par exemple qui n est pas allé plus loin que le pitch ou la série shield de Hama qui est devnue GIjoe. C est de l ordre des projets avortés de claremont et Byrne suite leur séparation et à la mort de jean grey par xeemple ou la mort de steve rogers par Dematteis)
